I cant say Im unhappy with the performance of our vehicle, but its not been perfect either. Hi Aaron, have bought a 2021 2wd dmax, mostly loving it . The seal itself is cheap (from memory about $15) each, and doesnt take more than 30 minutes to replace. Surely we cant be the only 2 with a 2017 Dmax that has this issue? Yep, the solution to the hands free is to swap it out. Its ordered now; youll get a great car and Im sure youll have fun with it. Dobinsons 1.5"-3.5" Suspension lift kit Twin Tube Shocks and rear Quick Ride Kit for 2012 and Up Isuzu DMax & Chevy Colorado. i have the same 16 model as i didnt want dpf either, the only problem i have had was a weeping transfer case seal fixed under warranty twice. I do not know how someone could justify spending 70K on an X Terrain these days and be happy departing this that amount of cash. At this stage Im having it done at Isuzu Pakenham. EDIT we had our Dmax body mounts replaced under warranty at 60,000km after the front two were showing signs of cracking and sagging badly. Have recently had installed an Alphatech Superstorm piggyback computer to the ECU, including dyno tune. I did read from an Isuzu technician that it is caused by soft body mounts that wear out and are not replaced often enough, and have seen a number of them cracking at the front, so keep an eye on it. Feel like I need to move away from dealership services so I can actually speak to a mechanic and not read a technician report! Great turning circle for a ute. It is the pre DPF model. Date: 12:51 PM Oct 25, 2016. The insurer said they believe its a manufacturing defect also hence the cash settlement as opposed to authorising the repairs and giving a lifetime warranty on them. That is the last thing anyone needs is to be broken down 700km away from home. Customer was very happy with our service as well as BDS lift kits in getting this sorted right away. Let us realise that at 110kph, we are covering 30 m/sec, relative to on coming traffic this is 60 m/sec. They make great vehicles, and I'd happily own most of their range. Another quote came back and said the diff drop and spacers were illegal and wouldn't supply it. The old Jackaroos were a fantastic vehicle, and you are right; Isuzu know how to make a vehicle. Thanks for the update. Im looking to buy a new 21 model and give the 10 to the missus but you are so right there isnt a perfect 4wd out there but these are a great bus. Sounds like youve had a rough run, and are understandably annoyed about it. At only 5 years old it has not lived up to reasonable expectation and should be done free of charge. I run a e-locker in the back which is excellent. Dmax Store | . Now they are telling my mate that the amber lights on the roof could void warranty. We prefer going off-grid in national parks & free camping in the bush over caravan parks. Its a real shame. The Dmax CV's seem to be at a disadvantage from the factory though, with the differential sitting slightly further back than it other vehicles, and this puts more stress on them to start off with. Mark. I have a 2019 Isuzu Dmax Auto SX model. Re the cracks Asides from that, you have purchased a vehicle that isnt doing what it should. Ill be driving along and just go into limp mode. The new panels are different parts. Second issue was manual gearbox, they looked at it, told me nothing wrong while well under warranty and then of course a few months out of warranty wouldnt look at it. I do love my MUX and its bells and whistles but gee I hope thats all that is going to go wrong this early in the piece! Hi Aaron How to install a 4x4 lift kit at home in half a day 4WD 24-7 432K views 3 years ago BNB BUDGET BUILD || Stock to Tourer in 24 Hours!! 2013 dmax replaced a clutch at 30000 ,rattle in motor when cold from new for 4 seconds ,squeel in front wheel oil seals from new a bit of wd40 once a week looks after that left hand front tyre chops put suspension all checked out ok, loose radiator fluid since new 1lt month car has 100000 on it now still goes good had a roos ECU remap plenty of towing power now. I bought it from new and Ive done 125,000km now. The front wheel bearings keep having problems and need re-packing every couple of services. TJM bullbar and winch, side rails and side steps. You might already know that cars and vans are super expensive and have long lead times right now. I am a mechanical fitter by trade, and am very familiar with the difference between hard work and abuse. Apart from that ive had a good run so far, only 41,000kms. Aaron, Thanks for your precise & v. comprehensive analysis. They are a great vehicle, with a solid foundation, great engine and reputable gearbox (if you get the auto) and good quality gear used overall. Hope we can get another 140,000 trouble free kms out of her!! Weve also fitted a transmission cooler to care for our Automatic Transmission, after the temperatures were getting a bit too hot for my happiness, but this is not uncommon for a lot of new 4WDs that are working hard. Not good enough Isuzu; absolutely no leg to stand on in your defence. Aaron, Is anyone having issue with oil consumption? Regular price $1,010. That said, our replacement 4WD from the 80 Series Land Cruiser was an Isuzu Dmax; a step in a very different direction.If you want to know how much the total build cost, you can read about it here - Dmax build cost. Ive seen a few cases of this, but again know plenty of people who give them a lot of work and have never had a problem (and neither have I). Maybe. 28,000 ks only on her though. IUA flatly denies that the vehicles got substandard steel as part of supplier fraud. This has been an extremely stressful time. Just to chipping in with my experience. Sounds like youve had a few issues! You can get similar results with a good remap too, and the factory turbo. It takes more than a cover version of a Fleetwood Mac song to build a tough 4WD. Hi Arron great article. Id never buy another Dmax, what a total piece of garbage! I feel like that is the source (and hope). Any car maker that knows of a production problem yet lets cars get built & sold with so many defective diffs, front ends and gearboxes anyway is a joke. Dobinsons Ball Joint Spacer for Holden Colorado / Isuzu DMAX(WA21-546K) Regular . Interesting about the nolathane body mounts; have you had any issues with body cracking? Would i buy another one yes, would i look at anything else yes but it would need tobe really good if i decided to change. Looks like we wont be until the vehicle is sorted. I have an SX spacecab 2013. Driving with a cross wind is a constant battle against steering feedback. Its got enough power to be reasonable, and a lot if you are used to some of the older diesel 4WDs, but its got nothing on other Utes like the Ford Ranger, Ford Raptor or V6 Volkswagen Amarok. Emergency brakes are applied prematurely. Ive had the rear differential pinion seal replaced under warranty as it was leaking, and the 4 front body mounts that were cracking and deforming. Led. The ACCC makes it very clear that any product purchased in Australia must do what a reasonable person would expect it to. Unfortunately the turbo issue is huge, and even on this very post some people are on their 4th! All the best in your battle for a fair outcome Roof racks; are you overloaded? I have a 2016 D-Max and having a lot of problems with all the fuses there is far to many I blew a auto transmission fuse and the reverse lights don,t work it is confusing, now I have to replace the timing chain adjuster the chain looks ok.I hope others don,t have problems and good motoring. Parts were ordered, shipped and arrived very fast. Youve probably already realised that everything has its drawbacks, and you have to make a compromise somewhere. This is my second dmax (MY2019), after my 2010 gave me 200,000km with pretty close to zero headaches. Congratulations on the new to you vehicle. These are also damaged easily by anyone working in the engine bay with a number of people saying during battery changes, or even if someone just leans on it the pipe will crack and leak your gas out. Thanks. We really appreciate the freedom that we have had to explore Australia & more recently WA in particular. This last one they slightly over filled onto the yellow so when I took it back it was down to the full dot and they said it hadnt used and is fine then wanted to close the case until I said no and did another 3000km and its dropped 5mm from the dot. Theres no doubt that the D-max lacks in the fancy bits department. & have a 2009 Prado (since 2012) and a light non-offroad caravan ( tare 1450 kg, fully loaded 1800 kg) since 2018. I assume it starts and behaves normally? If you force it to turn in this state by hitting the gas, your CV joint will explode internally. Might as well buy a 1984 Lada Niva. I would absolutely disagree with them being cheap and nasty, and there are thousands of happy owners; you dont have to look too far to find them either. Weve gone with the lightest full size steel bull bar I could find, opted not to install a second battery under the bonnet (which I reckon is a daft place to put one anyway!) It is our on-farm vehicle. This kit will only work on trucks that keep the center link in the factory position. That said, I dont own one and havent been following too closely, and they really havent been out long enough to identify how they go. Lots of people have trouble free Dmaxs too. On thing i did do and am blown away with, is a new Gturbo fitted, not because the factory one was playing up. The Dmax comes with traction control and no diff lock or LSD. In terms of the dual cab Utes on the market today, the Dmax is one of the best in terms of reliability. Interesting about the Alphatech piggyback; Id heard of them before and might give our Dmax a tickle at some stage in the future. Id suggest you get something light and strong if you can, and monitor the body mounts carefully, and look for any cracks appearing. I would get the front weighed first though, as any heavy bull bar is likely to put you over the front axle weights, especially if you have bash plates or a winch as well. Thanks Paul. Fwh incase CV breaks. we bought a D-Max in 2013. we have had nothing but problems. What a truly terrible experience that Im sure has put you off buying another Isuzu. There are limited 4JJ1 engine problems, and they tend to be reasonably cheap to repair as needed. Sorry to hear mate. If its doing this while you are in gear, and driving along, it can only really be the clutch slipping. If there is one thing that is a total and utter flop on my model Dmax (2012 2016) its the hands free. Any suggestion as to the correct procedure when installing a lift kit? In my opinion they sound desperate to get rid of us. No wonder you got another Dmax; its awesome when you feel comfortable with a previous vehicle to just buy the next model up. It is nearly impossible to follow the 808 page manual. Might be worth considering a second hand motor too. The very comfortable seat. Ive had my 2017 LS 2WD Manual D-max for nearly a year now and got it as an ex-lease vehicle with only 27,000 k on the clock. 4WDs are incredible expensive now, but is a bit extra worth paying for something newer/less kilometres? The game is always changing, and theres no perfect 4WD for everyone out there. I dont know how many of these have been covered by warranty, but often by the time you reach those sort of kilometres the warranty is long gone. Whos doing the alignments? I know of one diesel car that was fitted with two electric pumps; one in the tank and one in the engine compartment. I have a 2018 SX duel cab with a steel tray and just the basic mods, Bull bar, 2 suspension up grade, larger tires and a catch can also 60k on the clock. 33 epic 4WD tracks in WA; how many have you done? Good to hear you had a great run from the Rodeo. If you want a Ute that has all the bells and whistles, a Dmax is not it. Fitting bigger tyres to your 4WD; what should you consider? Their frequency of the issue is now 3-4x a day. The inner guards cracked around 90,000km. then the clutch then rack and rack ends a bent chassis and now the crank has snapped and stuffed the block. Sorry if that upsets you. Have decided a new D'max and have asked for a 2 inch lift from the dealer. Ironically, several of the problems we have had have been the result of aftermarket gear. Ive been on various Facebook pages of different makes and models, and the Isuzu 4WD pages seems to have very, very little issues overall. 3 have done in excess of 400K km all down to the driver as a driver, & not a wrecker. Of course, if its causing fault codes then you have a whole different leg to stand on. Absolutely. Ive heard some sketchy things about these safety features, and people are using blacked out business cards to stop the sensors from working to overcome it. There are a few areas of concern that we all hear about. Yep, this is a pretty well known issue. Isuzu have done an amazing job with their DPFs in general (compared to many other brands), but I am still seeing some DPF (or DPD) problems on Dmaxs and MUXs. We absolutely love our set up but we acknowledge that our set up has some shortcomings ( caravan is not off road rated & Prado has towing limit of 2500 kg) & are looking to sell both the car and caravan. Not sure if you are implying our Dmax has been abused, but it certainly hasnt. These motors are supposed to do 500,000km without any issues according to their sales spiel. Im also waiting for my aircon to fail, but no issues so far. Of course, you can rip the dash out and replace the head unit, which is what we will be doing soon. So my consumption goes down in increments of about 5mm every 3000km from the dot below the top yellow indicator. Feel free to contact me as theres more to the story I just cant fit it and Im probably boring everyone to death! The reasoning was simple; a DPF (or DPD as Isuzu calls them) is just another thing to go wrong, and I know Isuzu have issues with them in their trucks (despite being one of the better DPFs on the market today). She stated the clutch disc is completely warn and burnt out. I keep GVM 400kg down from maximum of 3600kg. Regards Tim from Tassie. I have a 2012 (start of the batch in the article) starting from new and with 315,000km on it now, doing a combination of on/off road. Got into a 2019 dmax and am at 29,000 km turbo going on this one aswell, starting the nice siren noise. Breaking when a car is in a left turn lane turning off, not allowing the vehicle to return to the left lane while overtaking on a duel carriage. It sounds like I am whining but feel people need to be made aware. Im probably not as hard on the vehicle as most off-roaders and am therefore happy with the vehicle and not in a hurry to replace it, particularly with those pesky DPFs (DPD). I dont know what the future holds, but I have no doubt that at some point in time when things open up internationally there is going to be a huge flood of 4WDs, campers, caravans, boats and every other leisure toy on the market, and they will have no choice but to offload them at a lower price. Have you had it back to Isuzu to see what they say? Interesting! 270 awning. Engine/gearbox point of view. Its certainly not been trouble free, and it would be interesting to compare this to a Hilux to see if they are actually any better. If you go through your manual, youll find fitting an LSD is not legal on these as they interfere with the electronic stability control. Customer was 10 provinces away from where work was originally done, made phone call to company that initially done the job, got phone numbers and spoke to someone from BDS lift kits right away. and will keep an eye on the body mounts regularly. Its not that I dont like them, I just prefer Range Rovers. Would I buy another Isuzu or recommend possibly not. You will not be able to sit on 100km/h when there are hills at all around; it just wont happen. I have never owned a Toyota 4WD and wont ever. Thanks for the comment, and the chuckles. Having spoken with a few gearbox guys of late the problem is now quite well known. Its the most reasonable explanation though, and Im sure I heard about it from someone who went to Isuzu outside of Australia. If you want the full review, check this out Isuzu Dmax review after 4 years. A lot of the process revolves around how good the service and mechanics are, and sadly they dont always back the product up the way they could. Ive always liked them. Now sitting on 165k and the vehicle is awesome. Fair enough. We are taking Isuzu to VCAT and I have spent thousands of my own dollars getting an engineers report. it has done a total off 126,000 km. It did it with a sense of flair that I will miss, but there are a few things I won't miss, and its all a compromise one way or another. I did some further research, and even read a publication from ARB suggesting they don't recommend a lift of any more than 25mm due to increased CV angles. That sucks mate. The better option is to get a locker, and replace it with something better, that will be useful off road. Sounds like youve had a bit of a rough run to start with. it can cause alignment issues if abused hard They won't affect normal working then. Realistically, if you have a DPF you should consider it a consumable, which is a shame as they arent cheap. Its all about the nut behind the wheel. The stereo clapped out under warranty, and the diff seal was leaking from the factory. Perhaps its time to retire or go back to something mechanical that you understand a bit better. Then it sits in 5th locked doing 60kms/hr so little acceleration and then give it a little bit more and it takes off instead of calmly accelerating. The ACC has some great information about warranties that is worth a read. Apart from the steering and brake overrides, the trip computer is cluttered with information and the navigator constantly needs screen intervention. No problems with cracking guards, body mounts, turbo, diffs, gearbox (manual), transfer case, oil leaks, tie-rod ends, DPFnothing! I believe the hardfacing was not done correctly on these, which is why they chew out. These are being replaced under warranty, but it takes time and means you are without a car for a while, and some people are on their third or fourth turbos! Not to mention being lied to by Isuzu. 116k on the clock. Thats fantastic. Will go elocker in rear one day because of known diff issues. If the Prado has been reliable, and you think it will continue to be so, maybe thats not a bad option. I have almost no savings now and after all this trying to move my family from Tennant Creek NT back to Victoria with no Air conditioning. I need to check mine too; thanks for the reminder. Friends have suggested buying an Isuzu Dmax which brought me to you. loaded up and towing a boat. It works OK, but isnt as good as some other variants on the market. Our Dmax has bigger tyres, a big ute canopy and a fair bit of weight, and you feel it towing a camper trailer around the 1.5 tonne mark. Take care, Sorry to hear you are going through that. I attached long evap pipe for aircon to firewall with clamp to try and avoid evap failure from cracking. They make great vehicles, and Id happily own most of their range. I could have paid the same price for a brand new one, but opted for the last of the pre DPF models. The latest visit to the dealership they requested to have my vehicle for a week to drive it around with their drive recorder attached, my ute never faulted for them but my mates ute did a couple of times. The gearbox tries to use the torque converter lockup like its a 10 speed gearbox, if i sit on 80kms/hr on the flat highway it goes from 5th locked down to 5th unlocked to 4th unlocked and back up and down we go. Electric windows are about as fancy as this one gets! I've had the Dmax for nearly 5 years now, and clocked up about 77 . Snowys; the best place in Australia to buy your camping and outdoor gear. The rear main is a much bigger job, and to be honest, if its not lifted (this only affects the transfer case seal, not the rear main), I would be pushing for both to go through under warranty. Have you spoken to Isuzu about it? Only you can answer that! I have a 2020 everest that I bought to tow a 2.6t van. 2. Being the SX version (base model) our Dmax has a similar interior to that of a 15 year old vehicle, and thats OK with me. I have seen people installing P clamps onto the firewall to stop the pipe from moving and cracking, and there seems to be a relationship with extensive off road use. We will have this for at least another 5 years, so lets see how it goes by the end of it. Again, this happens when you are 4WDing and giving it a bit too much. Independent front suspension vehicles are notorious for breaking CVs, especially when a lift is fitted. Hopefully your local dealer is helpful. I would get a locker instead of the LSD. Thanks for the comment. Unreliable. BTW Fantastic Blog, useful and entertaining! to me, its a solid and well build truck. Has anyone got any thoughts on this. You are right, it is quite the list of shortcomings. 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